Mathew Hillier 5:00 PM type comments here Geoff Crisp 5:02 PM http://transformingassessment.com 5:03 PM Pierre Benckendorff (UQ) #2 5:03 PM http://www.bizsims.edu.au/ Tim Hunt 5:16 PM Pretty sure I saw this model being thoroughly myth-busted recently. ;-) SL Tan 5:17 PM that was what i heard too today Prem 1 5:17 PM Sorry I have to leave this and will listen to recording if it is available later. Mathew Hillier 5:17 PM perm - yes will have it online soon. will email you when ready Cathy Avila #2 5:17 PM I'd love to have the full reference to this. Perhaps its at the end of the presentation. Prem 1 5:18 PM Thanks Mathew. Elyssebeth 1 5:19 PM There are more recent papers on the question of 'why simulation'? Mathew Hillier 5:19 PM if people have any references please feel free to paste them in here ;-) Jurgen Oschadleus 1 5:23 PM don't mean to be rude, but need to get to sports match; enjoying session and will view recording later kimanhdang 1 5:24 PM Hi Mathew. Very interesting presentation. I wonder if the PPTs will be available at a later stage with the recording. Thanks. Mathew Hillier 5:24 PM yes we can do that. i will post up a page with the session info, slides, chat log and link to the video recording kimanhdang 1 5:25 PM Great! Thanks a lot. Mathew Hillier 5:25 PM http://www.bizsims.edu.au Marlene Pratt #2 5:25 PM bizsims.edu.au Mathew Hillier 5:27 PM http://www.bizsims.edu.au/a-z-index-simulators Bernie Koh 5:30 PM .Will there be a demo of some of the simulations? Debbi Weaver 5:31 PM Not yet - looking at including some in the next year (MBA level) Mark 5:31 PM Mark here from USyd Bus School - yes we use bizsims at US and PG coursework Tim Hunt 5:31 PM I am not sure if we currently use online simulations in our business school. Anthea 1 5:31 PM Accounting at UQ using PierSIM Elyssebeth 1 5:31 PM I am on the Board of Simulation Australasia. We gave an interest in simulation if all types.. I use face to face toke okay based rather than online Deb Murdoch #2 5:31 PM we have in the past but not currently in our faculty but interested. Steve Guinea 1 5:31 PM Yes we use a lot of simulation in the Faculty of Health. Currently exploring the use of sim in Business and Law. SL Tan 5:31 PM simulation of the asian financial crisis in economics course kimanhdang 1 5:32 PM Yes, but not online. Simulation in finance education. Still a trialling stage. Bernie Koh 5:32 PM Would you classify simulations in the same arena as games? Cathy Avila #2 5:32 PM Yes, but not many sims in my area (biochemistry). Lots of simulations in other health science units. Elyssebeth 1 5:32 PM In your work did you find ABSEL association of business and experiential learning. USE based Anthea 1 5:33 PM Pharmacy UQ used SecondLife, now useUnityPlayer Elyssebeth 1 5:33 PM Also ISAGA international simulation and gaming association as a resource for others working in ths field overseas Preston 1 5:34 PM Fellow students in my masters class complained they were forced to pay, became an issue Geoff Crisp 5:35 PM perhaps those staff who resent those who use simulations should have more engaging activities? Elyssebeth 1 5:35 PM I so agree Geoff! And yet staff need guidance and courage to take on simulation, at any level. 5:36 PM And ask them about the underlying business and cultural models on which the sim is built. 5:37 PM Cap sim is very US centric 5:37 PM All simulation has a cultural infrastructure embedded. None are free of it. We carry our culture with us, regardless of where are from. 5:38 PM Glad to hear your comments on debriefing. It is an essential element of the sim as a whole learning tool.. And so is adequate briefing 5:40 PM Geoff Crisp 5:40 PM Reflecting on the cultural bias in a simulation can be part of the learning experience kimanhdang 1 5:42 PM I fully agree with your point about the importance of debrief, Elyssebeth 1. That is where lecturers can facilitate to make learning occur and explicit. Elyssebeth 1 5:42 PM Absolutely! Can be a vital learning component Mark 5:43 PM sorry must go, conflicting appt. well done Pierre and team. One Q I have - can you clarify the best way for students undertaking a bus sim to individually demonstrate their learning achievement? thnx. I'll check recording for the answer :-) Steve Guinea 1 5:44 PM A task that would be required in the real world. Elyssebeth 1 5:44 PM A 'design your own simulation' activity Bernie Koh 5:44 PM The simulation itself might contain an assessment, related to real world answers Mathew Hillier 5:44 PM blaance of multiple factors. not just outcome of the sim otherwise they will be tempted to 'game' the sim. Geoff Crisp 5:44 PM Although we do not use it, I quite liked the SharkWorld project management simulation because the simulation runs in real time and when students leave the simulation it continues and so things have changed when they come back to it - just like in real life (http://www.sharkworldgame.com/) Debbi Weaver 5:44 PM Communicate / justify decisions to different stakeholders? kimanhdang 1 5:44 PM Perhaps a reflective report on what has happened and what they have learned from the online simulation. Deb Murdoch #2 5:45 PM we developed a task where students reflected on their actions and provided advice to clients, wrote up case notes (it was a social work sim) and justified their choices. Elyssebeth 1 5:45 PM What do you most want to know about what the students think they have learned? YP 1 5:45 PM assessing individual skills in specific problem solving Cathy Avila #2 5:45 PM its chemistry and biochemistry so safety is key. Also accuracy of calculations and how does the simulated task relate to theory. Elyssebeth 1 5:50 PM To assess learning in a semester long HRbased sim i required weekly memos written to an action learning cycle format, encouraging development of reflexive skills Geoff Crisp 5:53 PM It would be good to have students experience consequences in the simulation so they can either adjust their actions during the simulation or reflect on what they would do differently next time. Cathy Avila #2 5:55 PM Good point Geoff. Anthea 1 5:55 PM Thanks for the session VW 5:55 PM Thanks - a really interesting presentation kimanhdang 1 5:55 PM Thanks very much Pierre for a very interesting presentation. And thanks very much Geoff and Mathew for making this presentation happen. Debbi Weaver 5:55 PM Thanks - great session and awesome website Bernie Koh 5:55 PM Thanks for the presentation. YP 1 5:55 PM Wonderful presentation! Thank you! Lainie 5:55 PM Thanks, Pierre. Great presentation! jacinta.arellano 5:55 PM Great, thank you Mary 5:55 PM Thanks for interesting presentation SL Tan 5:55 PM thanks Deb Murdoch #2 5:55 PM thanks, very useful Ghizzi - UWE 5:56 PM cheers thank you Elyssebeth 1 5:56 PM Will connect with you about Simulation Australasia. Many thanks. Good session AP 5:56 PM Great [presentation -- thanks! Cathy Avila #2 5:56 PM Thank you, Pierre. Mathew Hillier 5:56 PM http://ta.vu/feedback Preston 1 5:56 PM Very useful, will look into it Geoff Crisp 5:57 PM Thanks Pierre, very interesting area and good work for the project Geoff Crisp 5:59 PM Thanks Elyssebeth Geoff Crisp 6:02 PM make it an assessment task! Pierre Benckendorff (UQ) #2 6:02 PM Assessment can be a strong motivator Geoff Crisp 6:03 PM you can provide a rubric for students where they have to make text entries and include web site references etc SL Tan 6:04 PM thanks Mattew and Geoff. Appreciate the suggestions Geoff Crisp 6:06 PM Charles Sturt Uni does something with the police I thought? Marlene Pratt #2 6:08 PM Thank you Pierre...well done YP 1 6:08 PM Bye Mathew Hillier 6:08 PM bye all and thanks! Sandy 6:08 PM thank you! Pierre Benckendorff (UQ) #2 6:09 PM Cheers