00:38:21 Trish Powers: Hi from Adelaide University in Kaurna country. 00:38:32 Alexander Gerrie: hello from Adelaide! 00:38:47 Nhung Nguyen: Hello from Sydney the land of Gadigal people 00:38:59 Thomas Wanner (Adelaide Uni; Kaurnu country): SIG = Special Interest Group 00:39:01 Joanne Hart: On beautiful Gadigal land 00:39:01 Kria Coleman: Joining from Gadigal country 00:39:07 Beth Chapman: Hello from Ngunnawal country 00:39:10 Susan Turland: Reacted to "SIG = Special Interest Group" with ❤️ 00:39:11 Kirsty Phease: Hi from Wurundjeri land in Melbourne 00:39:12 Jennifer Kirby (AUT): Kia ora tātou from Tāmaki Makaurau Auckland :) 00:39:13 marshad: Hi, all. From Calgary, Canada 00:39:16 Lisa Ransom: Joining from Auckland, NZ 00:39:19 Anjali Singh: Hello from gorgeous Darug lands 00:39:19 Maria Cotter: Hello coming in from Anaiwan Country in the Northern Tablelands NSW, where main campus of UNE is located. 00:39:21 Martin McMorrow - Notre Dame: Thanks Matthew. Kay from Noongar country here in Walyalup / Fremantle 00:39:22 Chris Bigum: Yugambeh Country 00:39:23 Tracy Douglas: Hi from Tasmania (Lutruwita country) 00:39:23 Ann Parkinson: Hello from Gubbi Gubbi country (Sunshine Coast, Qld) 00:39:24 Tracey.Moroney: joining today from Whajuk Noongar Boodgar 00:39:37 Carolyn Tran: Hi all, from UNE, Australia 00:39:57 Thomas Wanner (Adelaide Uni; Kaurnu country): Hi everyone, great to have you at our Symposium. joining from Kaurnu country. 00:39:57 Nick Wilson: Joining from Gubbi Gubbi country (Sunshine Coast) 00:40:09 Hannah Mason: Kia ora from Ōtautahi | Christchurch in Aotearoa New Zealand 00:40:10 Sarah Kirk: Kia ora tātou from Tamaki Makaurau, Auckland, NZ 00:40:11 Anne McKay: Kia ora from Waipapa Taumata Rau University of Auckland 00:40:29 Susan Turland: joining today from Lutruwita Country (Tasmania) 00:43:32 Hira Siddiqui: Kia ora, joining from Waipapa Taumata Rau University of Auckland 00:43:49 Carolyn Tran: Hi Mathew, could we have slideshow for the presentation? Thank you. 00:44:02 Theresa: Reacted to "Hi Mathew, could w..." with 👍 00:44:19 Mathew Hillier: session slides will be available here http://taw.fi/ASAL2026slides 00:44:42 Laurine Hurley: Reacted to "session slides will be available here http://taw.fi/ASAL2026slides" with 👍 00:44:59 Mathew Hillier: sorry re presentation mode… i loose control of all the admin tools! 00:45:16 Laurine Hurley: Reacted to "sorry re presentation mode… i loose control of all the admin tools!" with 😂 00:46:45 Alexander Gerrie: Reacted to "session slides will be available here http://taw.fi/ASAL2026slides" with 👍 00:47:08 Wendy Taleo: Love a start with a TLDR. thanks. 00:48:07 Laurine Hurley: Reacted to "Love a start with a TLDR. thanks." with ❤️ 00:48:11 Priya (Sydney Uni Gadigal): Please do add your comments and questions within the Chat. 00:48:56 Chloe Salisbury: I don’t think the slides are moving 00:48:57 marshad: I don't think slides are moving. 00:49:02 z3000699: The slides are not moving! 00:49:05 Beth Chapman: Slides are not advancing team! 00:49:08 Irene Lubbe: We are still on the title slide 00:49:09 Laurine Hurley: Reacted to "We are still on the title slide" with 👍 00:49:09 Azzi Sadri: Reacted to "We are still on the title slide" with 👍 00:49:30 Laurine Hurley: A technical rather than wicked problem??!!😂 00:49:36 Priya (Sydney Uni Gadigal): Reacted to "A technical rather than wicked problem??!!😂" with 😂 00:49:39 Theresa: Reacted to "A technical rather..." with 😂 00:49:39 Sarah Kirk: Reacted to "A technical rather than wicked problem??!!😂" with 😂 00:49:44 Trish Powers: Reacted to "A technical rather than wicked problem??!!😂" with 😂 00:49:45 Maria Cotter: Reacted to "A technical rather than wicked problem??!!😂" with 😂 00:50:04 marshad: Reacted to "A technical rather than wicked problem??!!😂" with 😂 00:50:17 Rita Prestigiacomo: Reacted to "A technical rather than wicked problem??!!😂" with 😂 00:51:54 Mathew Hillier: slides are available here http://taw.fi/ASAL2026slides 00:52:18 Mathew Hillier: arranged by primary speaker’s name 00:52:24 Jennifer Ireland: Reacted to "Love a start with a TLDR. thanks." with ❤️ 00:52:24 Laurine Hurley: I do wish (as an aside) that #10 was more widely followed in HE managament 00:53:54 Priya (Sydney Uni Gadigal): Reacted to "I do wish (as an aside) that #10 was more widely followed in HE managament" with ❤️ 00:54:27 Wendy Taleo: Reacted to "slides are available here http://taw.fi/ASAL2026slides" with 👍 00:57:56 Mathew Hillier: “action research”! 00:58:11 Laurine Hurley: Reacted to "“action research”!" with 😂 00:59:59 Priya (Sydney Uni Gadigal): Dealing a wicked problem , hence needs a 'wicked' mindset ! 01:00:41 Laurine Hurley: Where's my magic wand when I need it?: 01:00:49 Mathew Hillier: often the approach from “systems thinking”, including holism, soft/human systems thinking… not reductionism. 01:00:50 Nidhi Garg: Reacted to "Dealing a wicked problem , hence needs a 'wicked' mindset !" with 😂 01:00:51 Anne McKay: Reacted to "Where's my magic wand when I need it?:" with 🤣 01:01:00 Nidhi Garg: Reacted to "often the approach from “systems thinking”, including holism, soft/human systems thinking… not reductionism." with ❤️ 01:01:01 Priya (Sydney Uni Gadigal): Reacted to "often the approach from “systems thinking”, including holism, soft/human systems thinking… not reductionism." with ❤️ 01:01:02 Theresa: Reacted to "Where's my magic w..." with 🤣 01:01:03 Laurine Hurley: Reacted to "often the approach from “systems thinking”, including holism, soft/human systems thinking… not reductionism." with ❤️ 01:02:04 Laurine Hurley: #6 is such a common sop .. ban it, I say 01:02:20 Nidhi Garg: Reacted to "#6 is such a common sop .. ban it, I say" with 😂 01:02:59 Priya (Sydney Uni Gadigal): The issue is 'tradeoff' are contingent upon institutional agility than instructional (i.e classroom) 01:03:10 Mathew Hillier: assessment methods are one part of the overall toolset that need to be part of the broader systems change. 01:03:11 Michelle Edgely: The Castlereagh Statement casts the problem as disruption, requiring significant structural revision of the entire ed sector (as well as revision at institution, course and unit assessment level). 01:03:11 Ann Parkinson: "calculator" - so the AI calculator with built in camera? 01:03:25 Laurine Hurley: I have another mtg to go to. so will look forward to the recording. Thanks so far,.. food for thought! 01:03:43 Mathew Hillier: Reacted to "I have another mtg to go to. so will look forward to the recording. Thanks so far,.. food for thought!" with 👍🏻 01:03:44 Alexander Gerrie: Reacted to "The Castlereagh Statement casts the problem as disruption, requiring significant structural revision of the entire ed sector (as well as revision at institution, course and unit assessment level)." with ❤️ 01:03:53 Anjali Singh: Reacted to "The Castlereagh St..." with 👍 01:04:53 Mathew Hillier: recognising it as a wicked problem is the first step! 01:04:53 Priya (Sydney Uni Gadigal): people with 'power 01:04:59 Priya (Sydney Uni Gadigal): ' people with power and position - if they have a ' 01:05:12 Priya (Sydney Uni Gadigal): tame' attitude then that's a problem in itself. 01:08:53 Mathew Hillier: the tech solution from SF will likely make it worse! 01:08:59 Thomas Wanner (Adelaide Uni; Kaurnu country): thanks, Thomas. 01:09:21 Chris Bigum: Reacted to "the tech solution from SF will likely make it worse!" with 👏 01:09:52 Julia Wilson: Reacted to "The Castlereagh Statement casts the problem as disruption, requiring significant structural revision of the entire ed sector (as well as revision at institution, course and unit assessment level)." with 👍 01:10:24 Nidhi Garg: Agree Priya!! 01:10:48 Priya (Sydney Uni Gadigal): Reacted to "Agree Priya!!" with ❤️ 01:12:26 Mathew Hillier: even implementing lane 1/2 is a wicked problem it itself. e.g flavours of programmatic assessment v something else in light of the messy space of organisational diversity. 01:12:34 Priya (Sydney Uni Gadigal): Reacted to "even implementing lane 1/2 is a wicked problem it itself. e.g flavours of programmatic assessment v something else in light of the messy space of organisational diversity." with 👍 01:12:36 Chris Bigum: Reacted to "even implementing lane 1/2 is a wicked problem it itself. e.g flavours of programmatic assessment v something else in light of the messy space of organisational diversity." with 👏 01:12:38 Kylie: Reacted to "even implementing ..." with 👍 01:12:43 Julia Wilson: Reacted to "even implementing lane 1/2 is a wicked problem it itself. e.g flavours of programmatic assessment v something else in light of the messy space of organisational diversity." with 👍 01:13:01 Nidhi Garg: Reacted to "even implementing lane 1/2 is a wicked problem it itself. e.g flavours of programmatic assessment v something else in light of the messy space of organisational diversity." with 👍 01:13:17 Mathew Hillier: add to that the widening participation agenda of the universities accord (or a flavour of it). 01:14:05 Michelle Edgely: Replying to "even implementing la..." And a wicked problem when dealing with online students or students with issues that make it hard to attend real time & on campus classes. Will we deny those students an education? I hope not. 01:15:29 Michelle Edgely: And Katie Ford 01:15:36 Priya (Sydney Uni Gadigal): https://theconversation.com/most-uni-students-now-use-ai-but-that-doesnt-mean-they-like-it-295170 01:17:08 Michelle Edgely: Thomas, is that paper available now in a pre-print or online first version? 01:18:47 Alexander Gerrie: agreed @Beth Chapman 01:18:56 Jen: Reacted to "agreed @Beth Chapman" with 👍 01:18:59 marshad: Reacted to "agreed @Beth Chapman" with 👍 01:19:00 Lynley Clark - Flinders Uni: Reacted to "agreed @Beth Chapm..." with 👍 01:19:39 Thomas Wanner (Adelaide Uni; Kaurnu country): Reacted to "agreed @Beth Chapman" with 👍 01:19:40 Anjali Singh: I wonder If we were designing assessment from scratch today, knowing AI exists, would we create the same assessment system? 01:19:54 Theresa: Reacted to "I wonder If we wer..." with 👍 01:19:58 Priya (Sydney Uni Gadigal): Reacted to "I wonder If we were designing assessment from scratch today, knowing AI exists, would we create the same assessment system?" with ❤️ 01:20:01 Chris Bigum: Replying to "I wonder If we were ..." Nup 01:20:05 Nick Wilson: Reacted to "I wonder If we were designing assessment from scratch today, knowing AI exists, would we create the same assessment system?" with 👍 01:20:09 Michelle Edgely: Reacted to "Nup" with 👍 01:20:12 Anjali Singh: Reacted to "Nup" with 👍 01:20:18 Michelle Edgely: Reacted to "I wonder If we were designing assessment from scratch today, knowing AI exists, would we create the same assessment system?" with 👍 01:21:50 Julia Wilson: Reacted to "I wonder If we were designing assessment from scratch today, knowing AI exists, would we create the same assessment system?" with ❤️ 01:22:01 Michelle Edgely: Should we try to co-design a new assessment system with students? 01:22:09 Beth Chapman: Reacted to "Should we try to c..." with ❤️ 01:22:13 Anjali Singh: Reacted to "Should we try to c..." with ❤️ 01:22:15 z3000699: Reacted to "Should we try to co-design a new assessment system with students?" with 👍 01:22:16 marshad: Reacted to "Should we try to co-design a new assessment system with students?" with ❤️ 01:22:45 James Wong: Reacted to "Should we try to co-design a new assessment system with students?" with 👍 01:23:46 Nidhi Garg: Reacted to "Should we try to co-design a new assessment system with students?" with ❤️ 01:24:38 Michelle Edgely: The pace of academic publication is ill-suited to problems that are urgent, dynamic and WICKED… 😅 01:24:40 Hora Hedayati: @Michelle Edgely, I'd say Yes. Students need to be there, and it should also include other key stakeholders such as industry partners, professional boards,... 01:24:42 Thomas Wanner (Adelaide Uni; Kaurnu country): Reacted to "Should we try to co-design a new assessment system with students?" with 👍 01:24:47 Julia Wilson: Reacted to "The pace of academic publication is ill-suited to problems that are urgent, dynamic and WICKED… 😅" with 💯 01:24:49 Nassima Kennedy: Reacted to "The pace of academic publication is ill-suited to problems that are urgent, dynamic and WICKED… 😅" with 👍 01:24:57 Michelle Edgely: Reacted to "@Michelle Edgely, I'd say Yes. Students need to be there, and it should also include other key stakeholders such as industry partners, professional boards,..." with 👍 01:24:57 Mathew Hillier: Reacted to "The pace of academic publication is ill-suited to problems that are urgent, dynamic and WICKED… 😅" with 👍 01:25:02 Mathew Hillier: Reacted to "@Michelle Edgely, I'd say Yes. Students need to be there, and it should also include other key stakeholders such as industry partners, professional boards,..." with 👍 01:25:06 Nassima Kennedy: Reacted to "@Michelle Edgely, I'd say Yes. Students need to be there, and it should also include other key stakeholders such as industry partners, professional boards,..." with 👍 01:25:12 Hannah Mason: Reacted to "The pace of academic publication is ill-suited to problems that are urgent, dynamic and WICKED… 😅" with 😂 01:25:20 Nidhi Garg: Reacted to "The pace of academic publication is ill-suited to problems that are urgent, dynamic and WICKED… 😅" with 💯 01:25:44 Tracy Douglas: Reacted to "@Michelle Edgely, I'd say Yes. Students need to be there, and it should also include other key stakeholders such as industry partners, professional boards,..." with 👍 01:25:50 Michelle Edgely: Replying to "@Michelle Edgely, I'..." Yes, attending the Castlereagh Summit on Monday, very energising to be in the room with students, industry, VET, K-12 and of course, academics. 01:25:53 stuart lane (he/him): completely agree re 'secure hurdles'.. the proliferation of hurdle tasks as a knee-jerk response is dangerous.. it will lead to more unfair and unjust student failure, an even worse experience, and set us back pedagogically 20-30 years.. we need to keep separate the concept of assurance of learning over a whole course (pedagogical rigour and alignment) vs concern around security of individual assessments.. educational principles vs assessment delivery, and the latter is driving us in the wrong direction.. Thank you Thomas.. 01:26:05 Nidhi Garg: Reacted to "completely agree re 'secure hurdles'.. the proliferation of hurdle tasks as a knee-jerk response is dangerous.. it will lead to more unfair and unjust student failure, an even worse experience, and set us back pedagogically 20-30 years.. we need to keep separate the concept of assurance of learning over a whole course (pedagogical rigour and alignment) vs concern around security of individual assessments.. educational principles vs assessment delivery, and the latter is driving us in the wrong direction.. Thank you Thomas.." with ❤️ 01:26:11 Tracy Douglas: Reacted to "completely agree re 'secure hurdles'.. the proliferation of hurdle tasks as a knee-jerk response is dangerous.. it will lead to more unfair and unjust student failure, an even worse experience, and set us back pedagogically 20-30 years.. we need to keep separate the concept of assurance of learning over a whole course (pedagogical rigour and alignment) vs concern around security of individual assessments.. educational principles vs assessment delivery, and the latter is driving us in the wrong direction.. Thank you Thomas.." with ❤️ 01:26:14 Nicole Brownlie: Reacted to "Yes, attending the Castlereagh Summit on Monday, very energising to be in the room with students, industry, VET, K-12 and of course, academics." with ❤️ 01:26:17 Nidhi Garg: Thank you Thomas! 01:26:30 Kylie: Fabulous talk, Thomas. Thank you 01:27:01 Priya (Sydney Uni Gadigal): Reacted to "completely agree re 'secure hurdles'.. the proliferation of hurdle tasks as a knee-jerk response is dangerous.. it will lead to more unfair and unjust student failure, an even worse experience, and set us back pedagogically 20-30 years.. we need to keep separate the concept of assurance of learning over a whole course (pedagogical rigour and alignment) vs concern around security of individual assessments.. educational principles vs assessment delivery, and the latter is driving us in the wrong direction.. Thank you Thomas.." with ❤️ 01:27:34 Thomas Corbin: Replying to "And Katie Ford" I wasn't sure if Katie is still involved after leaving Microsoft, but absolutely, Katie is great and was a founding member with Danny and Jason! 01:36:23 Joanne Hart: Reacted to "completely agree re 'secure hurdles'.. the proliferation of hurdle tasks as a knee-jerk response is dangerous.. it will lead to more unfair and unjust student failure, an even worse experience, and set us back pedagogically 20-30 years.. we need to keep separate the concept of assurance of learning over a whole course (pedagogical rigour and alignment) vs concern around security of individual assessments.. educational principles vs assessment delivery, and the latter is driving us in the wrong direction.. Thank you Thomas.." with ❤️ 01:42:35 Trish Powers: Reacted to "Fabulous talk, Thomas. Thank you" with 👏